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Post by Friend on Jun 25, 2020 15:38:01 GMT
There are many documented studies which show HIV infection in the presence of negative results on the tests you are describing. I've posted a few in my first post, and here's another, concerning possible alternate infection profiles that HIV could cause (some seronegative people are positive for DNA fragments on specific unavailable tests, some elite controllers start with an infection that seems to clear): www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1198743X16000033Also, the likelihood everyone who comes to this forum has the same disease as Omar or Old Admin are nil (they didn't even have the same thing). Also, do recall that Omar has proclaimed the best treatment he's tried is ARVs. If somebody contracts HIV, speaks English, and matches the situation where they test negative on all tests, they will undoubtedly find this forum. It's safe to assume that the previous forum, which had about 100 active posters in total, attracted 10 or so undiagnosed HIV patients. We know HIV tests are not perfect, it's silly to believe an HIV seronegative patient will never find this forum The purpose of this thread is to ensure that the HIV speculation remains separated from the rest of the speculation. Be happy that you can direct the next new poster here when they start asking about HIV in the main thread. Whether you like it or not, this topic will continue to surface on this forum. Best to keep all discussion in one spot Another thing that doesn’t fit your statement above: a lot of old patients of this board infected their partners who also tested negative for hiv... would be a 1 in 1.000.000.000.000 that two partners test negative and are both elite controllers with no antibody, no rna and at least one of them no declining cd4. Also over a time period of 6 years that the old board existed... lol well keep trying to convince yourself that this is hiv but your claims are bs. Hi Bs Are you the same Bs of the old forum? Spare your time and efforts as you can't convince those people that it is not HIV They will spend a couple of years into that theory before realizing that it is not. Unfortunately people claiming that it is a form of unknown HIV are harming our cause because anyone outside reading that, is considering us as a bench of paranoiacs
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Post by georgina on Jun 25, 2020 16:12:07 GMT
No Terrys nails or vaginal smell just terrible night sweats and fasciculations and hair loss
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Post by georgina on Jul 10, 2020 15:02:38 GMT
Could we have Lyme disease ?
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Post by Keeponrolling on Jul 10, 2020 16:22:14 GMT
Could we have Lyme disease ? A lot of the old sufferers (from the previous forum) tested for lyme, all negative.
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Post by Yeah on Sept 20, 2020 8:28:45 GMT
Unfortunately, It’s HIV
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Post by BS on Sept 21, 2020 5:39:11 GMT
Totally unfounded statement. This board is up 7 years and no one (more than 100 ppl) even tested poz, not on antibody, p24 or RNA.
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Post by sofredor on Nov 9, 2020 20:09:51 GMT
It's not HIV, animals died in all of my relatives' houses, my best friend's mother died, my grandmother died and everyone in my family has symptoms - it's horrible, I had positive lyme disease - I'm taking medicine - better ones symptoms - but they don't go unfortunately .... it was a thousand times better to have hiv, only me and wife would get it, my grandmother and other people and animals would be alive ... and the doctors wouldn't call me crazy, there are few people in these forums because people unfortunately can only look at themselves, whoever is in these forums, OMAR and co is able to look at the next one ... and thanks to this accursed belief that this is HIV and they don't find out what the fuck this is. ...
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Post by Georgina F on Dec 6, 2020 20:18:01 GMT
Another thing that doesn’t fit your statement above: a lot of old patients of this board infected their partners who also tested negative for hiv... would be a 1 in 1.000.000.000.000 that two partners test negative and are both elite controllers with no antibody, no rna and at least one of them no declining cd4. Also over a time period of 6 years that the old board existed... lol well keep trying to convince yourself that this is hiv but your claims are bs. I don't think you are comprehending what I am saying Not everyone that visits this board will have the same diseaseIt's possible that any existing STD, or combination of them, could cause a weird, difficult to identify presentation. On top of that, there is certainly more than one unknown disease out there in the world You can change your name to Bs and think that's cute, but it doesn't change the fact that people get sick with HIV and test consistently negative. It's a documented phenomenon. Now that the world is connected by the internet, you can bet anyone who happens to be that unfortunate one in a million who has the presence of mind to search for answers will find this community. As you are well aware, there's no where else for them to discuss these realities, and the chances they'd find a doctor who could help them would be one in a million Concerning the people infecting their spouses, if the issue is that you've caught a difficult mutation, or rare strain, rather than that you aren't producing antibodies for genetic reasons, then you and your wife will both test negative. If you caught this from a prostitute, a recombination that is missed by tests is a legit concern. If your really think what I am saying is Bs, feel free to refute any of the posts I've made. I have sourced them with published experiments, and I have plenty more papers I haven't posted assuming this discussion has picked up Rumors from China and reports from Omar indicate ARVs are the best treatment for some individuals in our situation. When I say I'm still concerned about HIV, I am including any distantly related retro-virus in that concern, as if such a thing exists, who knows if it will be called HIV III or something new? If it walks like a duck and gets treated like a duck, may as well call it a duck until we know more Finally, I made this thread to help people like you, so that HIV discussion will not clutter the main thread. You should be happy that this thread exists, as you can simply avoid it if you do not want to discuss a potential HIV infection. Please do us the courtesy of not mucking up this thread, as we are posting in it so that we will not offend you in the main thread
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Post by Georgina F on Dec 6, 2020 20:20:37 GMT
Hello I had unprotected oral sex in January 2018. Afterwards I had buzzing in my legs and have suffered night sweats fasciculations and thinning weird hair ever since. The night sweats and twitches are getting worse and worse. I have consistently tested negative for hiv. Could I have some unknown form of hiv?
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Post by scaredmatt on Dec 28, 2020 18:09:50 GMT
Dear friends, I hope everyone is feeling better. I don't have any new information, I just came to check in, so people don't think I'm dead. I'm almost 4 years in, and most of my symptoms have are gone. I donated blood a couple of weeks ago and they made a lot of tests (including antibody and PCR for HIV). Everything was negative.
The message I'm trying to send is: even if you had every symptom of HIV, don't lose hope. I had every reason to believe I had HIV, but I don't have it.
Now, I have a theory: none of us reported having COVID-19. What if we had some kind of coronavirus? That would explain why nobody in this forum had COVID-19 (because we are immune to it). I don't mean we actually had the same coronavirus, but some different strain. What do you guys think?
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Post by Keeponrolling on Dec 29, 2020 6:00:53 GMT
Dear friends, I hope everyone is feeling better. I don't have any new information, I just came to check in, so people don't think I'm dead. I'm almost 4 years in, and most of my symptoms have are gone. I donated blood a couple of weeks ago and they made a lot of tests (including antibody and PCR for HIV). Everything was negative. The message I'm trying to send is: even if you had every symptom of HIV, don't lose hope. I had every reason to believe I had HIV, but I don't have it. Now, I have a theory: none of us reported having COVID-19. What if we had some kind of coronavirus? That would explain why nobody in this forum had COVID-19 (because we are immune to it). I don't mean we actually had the same coronavirus, but some different strain. What do you guys think? Hi scaredmatt, happy to see your message. I stopped posting on this forum as i am doing better myself (especially because of the same mindset you are having). I noticed when continuing with life and stop overthinking it symptoms get mostly better. I agree with you that it could have been a rna virus which triggered the infection. But it could also be EBV which triggered it and cleared on its own (the EBV is a theory many people on the old forums had, as all of the people tested positive for a cleared infection for it and older older age EBV is known to have worse symptoms). Also could be a bacteria but all in all for me it doesn't matter anymore because it is passed and feeling better. Best tip for all who think about HIV: if you test negative after the window period with a 4th generation test you are negative!if you need confirmation do a RNA but don't let it get in your head. scaredmatt: happy to see you are (getting) over it.
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Post by sofredor on Jan 2, 2021 18:43:50 GMT
scaredmatt - none of us took COVID-19 and look that I have had contact with several positive COVID-19 people, I also believe that it could be some SARS virus, as well as COVID-19 who are seeing that for several times after it effects people, we may also have these continuous symptoms, who knows maybe not getting the vaccine for this, or a medication will not help us ... and look, I have already done the COVID test 3 times, thanks to the cough ...
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Post by Insajad on Jan 3, 2021 11:02:36 GMT
Dear friends, I hope everyone is feeling better. I don't have any new information, I just came to check in, so people don't think I'm dead. I'm almost 4 years in, and most of my symptoms have are gone. I donated blood a couple of weeks ago and they made a lot of tests (including antibody and PCR for HIV). Everything was negative. The message I'm trying to send is: even if you had every symptom of HIV, don't lose hope. I had every reason to believe I had HIV, but I don't have it. Now, I have a theory: none of us reported having COVID-19. What if we had some kind of coronavirus? That would explain why nobody in this forum had COVID-19 (because we are immune to it). I don't mean we actually had the same coronavirus, but some different strain. What do you guys think? Hello How you have got this virus ? Oral sex or insertive sex ?
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Post by scaredmatt on Jan 3, 2021 23:32:12 GMT
Dear friends, I hope everyone is feeling better. I don't have any new information, I just came to check in, so people don't think I'm dead. I'm almost 4 years in, and most of my symptoms have are gone. I donated blood a couple of weeks ago and they made a lot of tests (including antibody and PCR for HIV). Everything was negative. The message I'm trying to send is: even if you had every symptom of HIV, don't lose hope. I had every reason to believe I had HIV, but I don't have it. Now, I have a theory: none of us reported having COVID-19. What if we had some kind of coronavirus? That would explain why nobody in this forum had COVID-19 (because we are immune to it). I don't mean we actually had the same coronavirus, but some different strain. What do you guys think? Hello How you have got this virus ? Oral sex or insertive sex ?
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Post by scaredmatt on Jan 3, 2021 23:36:11 GMT
Hello How you have got this virus ? Oral sex or insertive sex ? I had protected insertive vaginal sex and unprotected oral (both ways).
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