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Post by mokao123 on Oct 30, 2018 11:00:12 GMT
Hello there, I'm the man that wrote this blog hivinfectionforexpert.wordpress.com/ I found you from a reply message ti my blog. I'm so ..... I don't know how to say... The user Who create this post was right...i was kicked out from hivforums and doctors Just told me...you had an infection now is passed. Se excluded manu disease with negative test to the most infection disease. I don't know what ti think. The O nly symptoms i have now are seborroic dermatitis in head, i was really tired till 1 month ago and i recover all' my Lost weight and 1 kg more the my normal weight most located in my belly. I never had belly fat like this. are you in itali? whats your hiv expert say about it . i think no use to go to see doctor,but virus expert.
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Post by smartclever on Oct 30, 2018 12:00:05 GMT
I went to virus Expert and HIV Expert in Rome at the National Institute of infection disease. I tell my sexual exposure and they made me di an HIV test. That Result negative After 20 days of exposure and when i go back to take the Result the Expert said that with cunnilingus noone ever contracted HIV, also if i swallow vaginal liquid and if vaginal liquid touch my gland. Doctor talk me 20 minutes and didin't check Blood exams, didnt make me more exams, no STD exams, nothing of nothing and told me to go to psicologist. Don't care i have fewer, diharrea,trush and more. So i start to make exams by myself to found low cd4 and gram positive bacteries. This is the professional doctors we have in Italy that don't care your status. Only 1 doctor make me more exams but Only about virology hbv,hav,hcv,syphils and bactrriological parasite check, but everything negative so She told me that i had an infection but don't know which one. So if now i feel better means that infection Is solved...my question..how HIV infection works? Or retrovirus works? Step 1 --> acute infection, step 2 --> latency (no symptoms for months years), step 3 --> immunodeficency.
I read medical documents and listen to ppl that contracted HIV (mainly Who Result positive is to HIV type B the most common and the One most studied for therapy too) that After infected usually had dermatitis in head and weak nails...i'm 40 ad i said and i never had dermatitis and my nails were more cute and strong and lucid than a woman has.
For High IgE told me to go to allergiest doctor. That when visitated me told me...you don't have allergies....IgE Can bè High for infection too, in what you explain me and symptoms, you have tonfo ti an infection Expert....
This is Italy...
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Post by In the beginning on Oct 30, 2018 12:47:23 GMT
To clever smart. My experience is very much the same as yours in regards to my illness as well as with the drs. I repeatedly have gone to the several drs as well as taken my wife. Every dr told me it’s psychological except my infectious disease dr. Who continues to advise that my wife and I retest every three months. My wife and I now owe about 6000$ so we’ve agreed to test every 6 months instead of 3 because all of the early frequent testing has put us in debt. We are from America where none of these visits or tests are free. It is very hard to have faith in the medical community when they are clearly wrong about something so serious. I was terrified but am now saddened by the reality that I’ve contracted hiv. The only thing that’s got me scared now is the thought that my wife or I may fall into the category of people who never test positive and get a diagnosis of icl or something like that. I’ve accepted my fate and if there is nothing else left to do but get my diagnosis and get on meds I wish to do so already.
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Post by Tsuneyasu on Oct 30, 2018 13:03:50 GMT
This thread from 2012 here summarizes your point "In the beginning" about window period. Notice how the nurses/doc imply pinpoint leaked condoms are a possibility, then suggest to test at least until 12 months as well: www.justanswer.com/hiv-aids/72smh-general-question-smelly-penis-sign-hiv.htmlYet if we're talking about unknown strains, time won't affect test results. About symptoms, has/is anyone of you experienced/ing these: - Terry's nails & nails clubbing - swollen veins - bubbly saliva - skin itching/peripheral neuropathy - smelly penis (preputial mucosa/smooth zone/inside foreskin) - unexplained dry cough - skin peeling on hands inside surface - loose stools with changed odor
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Post by In the beginning on Oct 30, 2018 17:04:52 GMT
Hello tsuneyasu. I have experienced everything you listed except nail clubbing and smelly penis. Terry’s nails did happen to a certain degree. however my nails have returned to normal for the most part. The whites of my nails are still larger than they were before my exposure but were worse for the first several months after my exposure. I hope you are well and I’m sorry you’re experiencing all of this.
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Post by Tired on Oct 31, 2018 5:55:12 GMT
Hey Tsuneyasu. Yeah I’ve had swollen veins (and more blue veins appearing), neuropathy, smelly penis, and loose stools.
Has anyone had strong smelling and strong coloured urine? I have had that for months. Liver and kidney tests normal though...
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Post by In the beginning on Oct 31, 2018 12:31:19 GMT
Hello tired. Yes I have been experiencing the dark and strong smelling urine. Most of my body function is changed from the smell of sweat, to the smell of urine, to the smell and consistency of my stool.
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Post by Tired on Nov 1, 2018 0:41:58 GMT
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Post by Tired on Nov 1, 2018 0:50:41 GMT
(By the way this article is from a few months ago, it’s not just another article about the 2009 China Aids virus, but a more recent update which suggests many more cases have developed since then and there are various online discussion groups of those affected)
These stories are the same as the ones here. Same symptoms. And Doctors telling them it’s all in their heads. I’ve tried to find the QQ groups they mention, but it’s pretty impossible when you can’t read Chinese...would be great to somehow get in touch with these people also. It makes sense that there are many more affected in China when the population is over 1 Billion.
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Post by In the beginning on Nov 1, 2018 13:35:58 GMT
Yea if I’m not mistaken the last forums had a handful of the Chinese patients but from what I’ve read they really only asked for us to link them to drs and researchers in the states. Which as you are aware of if you are from America, the drs have nothing extra to offer. It’s not like the movies where researchers are dedicated to trying to figure out what is ailing a patient. They follow protocol which is run a diagnostic test and if the test comes out negative for anything then you get a clean bill of health. My experience with the drs up to this point is that they are more so there to tell you that nothing is wrong and try to maintain the facade that everything is ok than to get to the root cause of the issue if it’s out of the scope of their basic training. China is just a bit more extreme and basically considers it an act against the government to say that your sick if the government drs tell you that you are not. So they are just as desperate as us only more so because the government is the one telling people it’s not real.
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Post by Tsuneyasu on Nov 1, 2018 13:46:45 GMT
@tired Yes foamy and odorous urine indicate high white blood cells level. Can be sign of urinary tract infection if someone complains when peeing, but also HIV.
Have you experienced tinnitus?
Has anyone tested for erythrocyte(blood) sedimentation rate or transferrin saturation?
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About the chinese link:
- The pathogen is thought to be transmitted by saliva and sweat, that's why many are convinced it's not HIV. Yet it's probably a mixed bag of people, some people even go "Zayang" (i.e. purposely infect themself to finally get diagnosed) thus creating a coinfected group patients.
- Chinese authorities have been concealing epidemy for years but now it's getting out of control. Some people have gone rogue and have sex with as many partners as possible to spread the disease.
- Some have decided to start lamivudine (HIV medication) treatment and noticed general improvement and lessened symptoms. It reminds me TonyDeWitt's HTLV theory, he has been treating himself with Truvada and as of last time he was seen on ehealth forum he is doing better.
- On those forums (QQ and blogs and others...) ultimately they started to get nervous as some maintained it was new strain of HIV while others objected. Exactly what happened on previous forum finally shut down by wilson10.
- As a result of no serious investigation from Health Authorities people feel hopeless and desert forums, disappear silently and don't update on their situation, thus their probable deaths end off the radar (natural cause, unrelated cancers), no major concern from state. Some commit collective suicides.
- Various blood samples were collected by research labs and analysis found anomalies, yet no pathogens were identified. Basically the same conclusion as Aperiomics. Only now authorities start admitting it's not psychological.
Some chinese guests lurk around here but many have lost trace of community because previous forum is lost.
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Post by In the beginning on Nov 1, 2018 15:16:26 GMT
Thank you for the breakdown Tsuneyasu. Very much appreciated
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Post by In the beginning on Nov 1, 2018 17:06:07 GMT
I also considered taking truvada before I encountered tony Dewitt having mentioned it but my fear of resistance still lingers. If truvada seems to be the route you are interested in trying, this is a promising article. www.aidsmap.com/Generic-PrEP-bought-online-has-correct-amounts-of-emtricitabine-and-tenofovir/page/3358691/Also in reference to recombinants www.scidev.net/asia-pacific/hiv-aids/opinion/world-unprepared-for-a-new-hiv-epidemic.htmlI will also seek an article I read some time back about researchers who tried to see if spurring the growth of the HIV virus could cause it to burn itself out, and cause it’s own extinction(in layman’s terms) It did not work and either accomplished nothing or caused progression of illness. But my thoughts come back to what of the people who harbor said virus that is mutated further ahead of scientists capacity to stay ahead of the curve. These people are just part of failed trials and then sent back into the world to potentially infect others with this significantly mutated/advanced virus If you’d like to do your own research till I find the particular article I’m looking for. Key words to search would be lethal mutagenesis hiv-1 in Vivo
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Post by Tired on Nov 2, 2018 1:58:49 GMT
Thanks for the great summaries guys. I wasn’t here for the old forum.
Makes for fascinating reading....and then I just sat back, and it hit me that most likely we will die a slow painful death over the next few years, similar to AIDS, without any help or treatment. And nobody will understand why.
I can now understand why those groups in China would want to go and infect others. Until it becomes an ‘epidemic’, these things will never receive serious investigation. As you mentioned, Inthebeginning, medical professionals can only diagnose based on current levels of understanding/training. It’s a shame that the only real organised group that received a proper study was in China and the government dismissed it as a mental problem.
Tsuneyasu yes I have had tinnitus.
The article regarding a new HIV epidemic is really interesting Inthebeginning. Thanks
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Post by smartclever on Nov 2, 2018 6:45:39 GMT
This is so sad... but true. I mean doctor Who Will never send to Specialist that make research on you, your status and what you had.
As i told anyone...in this life or story...a lot of people must die to make have a research...noone research or something that don't make at life risk.
Example...the hiv group N was discovered, from stored blood specimen, 3 years after a camerunian woman died for immunodeficiency (aids).
Is sad but is like this...someone decide for my life? (Who intentionally infected me) and doctors (that gain really a lot of money and must listen and value exams) that are not capable to do their job. I will go and donate blood, hope that will make too. Because now after 1 years from infection, I repeat all some exams. Blood WBC are high, ige are high...
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